Part 13 Then and now - Franklin D. Roosevelt and Barack Obama
Dennis Sutton February 2009

It's unfortunate that Herbert Hoover's birth data is not quite reliable. 'Around midnight' is the given time, but the date is in dispute. He said August 10, but the church records in West Branch, Iowa (where he was born) show the birth date as August 11. Hoover was President when the stock market crashed in October 1929: And even though he took action to address the economic problems caused by the crash his failure to solve the unemployment problem contributed to his defeat by Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 1932 presidential election. In 1933 when Roosevelt took office there were 14 million workers unemployed in America and six years later in 1938 the problem had not been solved.

Roosevelt was born January 30, 1882 at 8.45pm LMT near Hyde Park, New York (41N48; 73W56). His father recorded the birthtime in his diary, but it's not the time that was used by astrologers during the 1930's. They used a time of 8.00pm which reportedly came from his secretary when he was first elected President - see page 163 Occultism Applied, Course X1V by CC Zain.

Labour, work and employment problems are a 6th house mundane-matter and Roosevelt had Mercury - the planet of talk and rhetoric - in the 6th house. Mercury was trine the MC. Saturn - the planet of unemployment - in the 8th house (tax matters and debt) was cusp ruler of the 6th house: And Saturn had prominence status and was high in discord. In March 1932 - eight (8) months before he won the Presidency - progressed Saturn in his chart moved to form a high-discord obstacle (square) aspect with birthchart Sun. The aspect reached its peak power and discord on January 12, 1941 and clearly revealed the astrology behind his inability to solve the unemployment problem. Other Saturn progressions between 1932 and 1939 - progressed Ascendant opposition birthchart Saturn, progressed Mercury sextile birthchart Saturn and progressed Mars sextile progressed Saturn - provided constant stimulation to the unconscious thought factors related to hardship, work and unemployment. The tide eventually turned when progressed Uranus - in the 12th house (relief) and cusp ruler of the 6th house (labour) - moved to form a (luck) trine aspect with progressed Neptune.

Barack Obama has the Sun and Mercury in the 6th house (labour and work problems) and like Roosevelt he will experience high-discord Saturn progressions during his presidency: Progressed Mercury square birthchart and progressed Saturn, progressed Mars square birthchart and progressed Saturn and progressed Ascendant square progressed Saturn. Even though Mars and Saturn form a luck (trine) aspect in their birthchart their discordant nature reduces the aspect's harmony by 75%. Gains can be made through the effective use of energy, initiative, patience, clever foresight and careful planning. Progressed Mars square progressed Saturn has a peak approximate average relative discord of 24.47 discordynes - a high degree of difficulty that will make the unemployment problem (Saturn) hard to solve.

Roosevelt and Obama have some interesting astrological similarities. Mercury in both charts is in the 6th house - trine the MC; and Roosevelt's Sun and Obama's Ascendant are in the 2nd decanate of Aquarius. This is the decanate of inspiration. It marks for unlimited resourcefulness in imaginative creation, the ability to gain information from invisible sources and a talent for conveying ideas in a most convincing manner.